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Post by SD Coach on Nov 24, 2002 19:50:38 GMT -5
I am wondering what wresling athletes, fans, parents, and coaches think about the 103 lb. class. I have 38 kids out 9th-12th and none can make 103. We will have to dip into the Junior High program to find someone to fill that spot. I guess my feelings are that since we have junior high programs that is where the J.H. wrestlers belong. I would like to see 103 taken off the line-up and another weight class added in the upper weights. What do others feel?
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Post by Miner on Nov 25, 2002 14:58:06 GMT -5
Well we have 19 kids in our room and Two 103 lbers (freshman and sophmore). but no 215 or 275. Just because our school cannot fill those spots. I do not believe that we should eliminate the weight classes. IF wrestling is going to grow we need as many wrestlers in it as possible, no matter big or small. Wrestling is one of a few the sports where the little man has a CHANCE.
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Post by Coach on Nov 26, 2002 12:48:20 GMT -5
I see both sides of this issue. The point that SD Coach makes is valid. Traditionally, 103 is a young kid, who at times, is a junior high aged wrestler. Do they belong on a varsity mat? Their skill level may only be JV level or below. If they are good enough and old enough, however, I see the other side. We shouldn't discriminate. I do belive the 103 class should be raised a few pounds. Possibly 106. The nine pound jump between 103 & 112 is way too much. Something like 106,112,118. then follow the present weights.
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Post by YTS on Nov 27, 2002 0:05:52 GMT -5
I think the need for 103 is there. In Minot we have had a Jr. in that position two years running. I understand that SOME schools would have a difficult time filling that weight in certain years, as some schools have a hard time filling the upper weights. That's where your feeder program comes into play. You must look at your weaknesses and encourage kids in that area to compete and have fun. I also understand that the lower weight classes are filled by younger wrestlers. I do not see this as a bad thing. Look at Lang, Mellmer, Bischoff, and a host of others that started varsity young and small. I agree that the spread from 103 to 112 is too large. I like the young bucks competition, let's add a weight class, perhaps 103, 110, 115, 120, 125 and so on. Have a great year and good luck with your battles on and off the mat.
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Post by luv2pin on Nov 27, 2002 12:39:33 GMT -5
I feel that 103 serves a good purpose. It is a building block for kids that are trying to start a name and career for themselves. 103 should be kept in the lineup
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Post by Blair Kelley on Nov 27, 2002 13:38:31 GMT -5
I agree with luv2pin. 103 may include young wrestlers, but they are still deserve that opportunity to showcase their talent. I can remember many 103 pounders that have won state titles (Mellmer, Lang, etc.) that have gone on to prove that they can wrestle in other weights. If the wrestler is good enough we should give them the opportunity. Let the weight class stay!!
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Post by Brian75 on Nov 28, 2002 12:15:27 GMT -5
I am a small 8th grader and love wrestling. The national picture has many upper classmen in the 103 weight class. I don't expect to even get to 103 pounds until I am probably a Junior in high school or maybe even a Senior. Wrestling is set up to give everyone a chance. Let's leave the weights where they are so I can have a chance and not be discriminated against because of my size. Thanks for your support Miner, YTS, luv2pin and Mr. Kelly. See you in a couple years!
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Post by 6waitingfor7 on Dec 2, 2002 16:08:46 GMT -5
There are way too many junior high kids in this class now. To say that it is a good way for the young kids to break into high school wrestling is OK for those that actually are fortunate enough to be around that weight when they are 7th or 8th graders, but there are a lot of junior high kids who weigh a lot more or a lot less than 103#. They don't have the same opportunity to make the varsity team. High school wrestling should be geared towards high school kids.
For those who say they would be discriminating against the small junior or senior kid, explain your rationale to the kid that weighs 325#. I would imagine there are just as many of those kids that are "discriminated" against right now, as there are high school juniors and seniors that weigh around 103#.
I think it needs to be bumped to 106 or 107. The extra 3 or 4 pounds should allow for quite a few more freshman and sophomores to make that weight. They would still be younger wrestlers, but at least they would be high school wrestlers.
One more thing, the wrestlers mentioned in previous posts are studs, and would have done quite well in a 106# or 107# weight class, anyway. If a 7th or 8th grader is good enough, he will still make his varsity team.
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Post by Dickinson152 on Dec 12, 2002 0:21:58 GMT -5
ok this is my philosophy on this topic... 103 lb. it is a great thing, yes it may be a light weight and tough to fill sometimes, but it also gives the kids that are light jr. high wrestlers a chance to develop and eventually become a stronghold of the varsity team, example, Mellmer, started out light now hes at 130 and is dominating because of his experience...now his brothers are down in the first two weight classes. And if I remember correctly, I believe i saw that there was once a 98 lb. weight class. Thus 103 shall stay. As for those heavier set people, I believe there should be another weight class for them in mind....and for some clubs it would be difficult to fill, but there is always more than one competitor in any given weight class and wrestling is fun and it is worth it.
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Post by goobz98 on Dec 25, 2002 23:51:36 GMT -5
GOOD! U look at the 103 pounders this year and there are alot of upper class men. Engraf(10) ty baitmen(11) and last years finals mach was a jr (lennick) and a Sr. and saying that u shouldnt have a 103 weight class cuz they are probobly jr high kids and dont have the maturity to wrestle varsity is incorrect cuz most of the 103 pounders every year are older.
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Post by leglever on Jan 9, 2003 15:26:18 GMT -5
103, let be---most often I would ratter see a 103 lb match even be it a jr hi lad. then most hwt wt. matches//this year in class b is an exception with quite a few good hvys...Take koistenen from rolla, yes young/but good/i remember imed**e
from linton starting at a low wt.///i like the moves kids learn when they are small/it carries into their wrestling when they do get bigger/older. should it advance to 106 or 107 lbs? maybe the spread from 103 to 112 is too big? some minor adjustment? perhaps?
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Post by goobz98 on Jan 16, 2003 20:11:40 GMT -5
I agree with leglever, 103 is a learning and developing stage. and our younger wrestlers need that.
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Post by Matman on Jan 16, 2003 20:16:31 GMT -5
Think back in North Dakota wrestling history about who started at 103. If we eliminate this weight class we might be cutting our own throats. This has been the start point for some of our best wrestlers. Don't deprive a wrestler of an opportuniity to compete.
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Post by cavalierhwt on Jan 17, 2003 0:08:51 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about this. i think i probably weighed 103 lbs in about 2nd or 3rd grade, i didn't get a chance to wrestle varsity until my sophomore year while other kids my same age had 3-4 yrs experience by then. At the same time they took there lumps being the younger inexperienced wrestlers while i probably got a lot more out of wrestling JV kids who were closer to my level of competition. i can also see the argument from the other side though, when i finally did get onto the varsity team it took me a good year to figure out what to expect, how to handle a few lofty butt kickings, and also how to not let a little success go to my head. had i had a couple years on varsity developing before that i may have been in a lot better shape. Overall i think 103 is probably a good weight class to have.
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Post by wrestlingat25 on Feb 16, 2003 21:55:30 GMT -5
I think 103 is a good class to have even if the wrestler wrestling it is in junior high our 103 pounder is in junior high and with him getting the varsity matchs he will learn and become a better wrestler from it or i would agree that maybe bumping the weight up a couple pounds wouldnt be bad
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